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"Ask the Slaves"January 29 1998

~*~Questions & Answers~*~
 Do you have questions that you might be seeking an answer to? Well this is the place to come and ask! Yes slave girls of Gor, we are going to try to answer all of the grand and wonderful questions that "we" as gorean slaves ask daily. nairi and kyna are here to help, or at least try that is. We will base our answers on fact, book knowledge, and of course real life situations. This is a forum for learning and not bashing so don't expect us to take sides ~wink~. All questions are annonymous, meaning no names will be mentioned, unless we use quotes with permission. Remember, the only question that is ignorant is the one not asked!

     All questions must be emailed to [email protected] (try to get them in as soon as possible if you wish to see the answers by the next issue date. We also take quotes and recipes should any of you wish to submit them :)


He is Master, and I am Slave.
He is owner, and I am owned.
He commands, and I obey.
He is to be pleased, and I am to please.
Why is this?
Because he is Master, and I am Slave.
(Explorers of Gor)

~*~The girls' notebox~*~
nairi has been really busy due to real life circumstances lately. we hope tohave her back with us soon as she is sorely missed when absent :) ei`lis has stepped in to help us with the column and we are so pleased to have her and welcome her to our corner of The Gorean Daily Times! also keep watch in the very near future for our resident paga expert to join our ranks! we thank you all for your interest in the column and all your questions that keep us in business. don't forget!! we love quotes and recipes so send away slave girls!

~*~This week's questions ~*~

Question 1: This girl has seen some tavern menus that include "hot chocolate" as available for the guests. Is there chocolate on Gor?

okay girls, rejoice! there *is* chocolate on Gor. It is even grown there!! kyna is overjoyed by this fact, a girl will have you know! kyna found this quote while searching to affirm her suspicions that most people cannot live without chocolate.

"This is warmed chocolate," I said, pleased. It was very rich and creamy. "Yes, Mistress," said the girl. "It is very good," I said. "Thank you, Mistress," she said. "Is it from Earth?" I asked. "Not directly," she said. "Many things here, of course, ultimately have an Earth origin. It is not improbable that the beans from which the first cacao(?) trees on this world were grown were brought from Earth." "Do the tress grow near here?" I asked. "No, Mistress," she said. "we obtain the beans from which the chocolate is made, from Cosian merchants, who, in turn, obtain them in the tropics."
page 61, Kajira of Gor

Question 2 : this girl is on a quest... this girl wants to know what are the gorean words for east, west, south, and north? can you help me?

well, as usual, when we do not know the answer and cannot find it, we approach Master _Marcus_ , the walking encyclopedia of things Gorean, and beg Him for help. we cannot thank Him enough. when kyna begged answer to this question, Master _Marcus_ told her this:

"There are no Gorean words for North, South, East and West. That is because Goreans do not classify direction according to the planet's magnetic pole... this is because the Sardar Mts. has a magnetic field so powerful that it overrides all compasses and lodestones.

Therefore, the Goreans use what I call a "locationally relative compass."

The Gorean compass possesses a needle which works likes a normal Earth compass, except that it always points toward the Sardar Mts.This is true whether or not the person who uses it is to the North, South, East or West of the Sardar. Therefore ones classification of directions alters depending upon ones actual position in relation to the Sardar.

I have attached a graphic which illustrates the Gorean compass and how it works(kyna adds; the compass is really cool. check it out at the link provided below). Imagine taking such a compass and pointing the arrow toward the Sardar Mts. The directions displayed at the other points would then be relative to your current position.

The actual direction names are listed as shown in the graphic, and are called "Ta-Sardar-Vask" Ta-Sardar-Cart" "Ta-Sardar-Rim" etc. You get the idea.

This is all explained in book 4, on page 3.

This compass is from my Gorean map at:

http://www2.1starnet.com/mharris/maps/mainmap.gif"

thank you, thank you, thank you Master _Marcus_!! and also special thanks to Master Danath for His help in researching this question. :)

Question 3: this girl was wondering where in the books there might be a reference to why a girl holds a cup or goblet to her slave heart for three ehn or three beats of her heart..

This question was asked of Master Marcus last week. He answered it in his column, you can have a look at it in the archive section here at The Gorean Daily Times. ei`lis would like to add a little comment to it, a slave opinion....since it was asked of us as well.

There is no reference, as Master Marcus said, to this in the books, but it is something commonly done on IRC. ei`lis thinks it is more done as an image. if we were serving the Master in real life, he could see our love, devotion in our eyes, feel that desire to please, so maybe holding the cup to our heart is the IRC way of expressing those feelings. Giving the Master a visual, if you will. On the other hand it is now so common that ei`lis is not sure it still has any meaning. Maybe we slavegirls need to use our imagination a little "beat" (j/k) more to find new ways to express our feelings. Maybe we need to struggle to be more pleasing, more inventive in our service....something to think about in any case.

Question 4:  this slave has often seen new girls to irc Gor being treated harshly by Masters for their mistakes. For Masters, it is their right to do such, but a girl has to wonder why other slaves laugh or giggle when they see it? Shouldn't we be more supportive, more understanding? Care a little more?

This is not an easy question, nor is it easy to answer. There are no references in the books to give an answer to this, so we must use human emotions. ei`lis has done a lot of thinking about this, trying to understand first, *why* do we laugh or giggle when another is having a hard time? For many, ei`lis thinks it is a way to 'impress" the Masters present, or to show that we agree with Him...think He is funny, that He is a great Master... ect... or perhaps it is often because that what the Masters are doing/saying really *is* funny, maybe because we know this Master and know that He is just having fun with the girl and isn't really trying to hurt her.. but in most cases, if the girl is new, she doesn't see it that way at all. she is not having fun, perhaps she is even terrified.

So what to do? First of all, try to remember our first day on irc Gor. Think back to the feelings we had, how hard it was, the insecurity, the shyness we felt. We can't, as slaves, interfere with a Master's actions, it is not our place to talk, or even judge what a Master is doing, but we can, at least, hush, and not add to another's misery. And if at all possible, without interfering with the Master's actions, send a private message to the girl, tell her not to worry, help her deal with the situation, help her learn from it, like perhaps another did for us. We can help her afterward as well, to find resources for learning, give her information, a hug, some comfort, so that she can grow instead of just feeling hurt and ashamed.

ei`lis has to admit that sometimes it is just plain funny, a subbie in need of a lesson who got it, and well, we all laugh at that. ei`lis cautions us all to be careful though, when dealing with these situations, and ei`lis agrees with you, care a little more and reach out to those new girls, for we were all there at one time, and maybe we should remember that a little more. :)


~*~ things to think about ~*~

and the quotes continue....

palms turned up!!!!

"She knelt in the position of the Pleasure Slave but her hands on her thighs had unconsciously, pleadingly, turned their palms to me, and she no longer knelt quite back on her heels. It was as though she begged to be allowed to lift and open her arms and rise and come to my arms. But as I looked upon her sternly she turned her palms again to her thighs, knelt back on heels and dropped her head, holding her eyes as if by force of will fixed on the plastic beneath my sandals.
Priest Kings of Gor, pp 234-235

*special thanks to ny{I} who thoughtfully submitted the quote we had long searched for! hurrah for ny!*

Friendships nothing is sweeter than a good friend...

"The slave girl, of course, will usually have many friends. These are, of course, almost always wenches collared like herself. Friends of her master will often bring their own girls with them, in visiting, and with these, after the men have been served, she many make friends, perhaps chatting in the kitchen. later... She may also, of course, meet girls in the streets, encountered in the neighborhood, or on her errands. The slave girl, almost always, has no dearth of friends. To be sure, they are likely only to be mere slaves like herself. "
page 209, Guardsman of Gor

about that sharing thing...

"These girls may be exchanged among the men, but commonly they are not. Most masters are rather possessive about their slaves, particularly if they are fond of them."
page 209, Guardsman of Gor

mmmm....are you a paga hot slut always ready for your Master?

and the difference between Men and women....
"Much sex between a master and his slave is spontaneous and casual, occurring whenever the master wishes, and not unoften when the slave begs for it. The sweetness of these sometimes sudden and transient ravishings, of course, does not replace the lengthy feasts of love of which the Gorean is fond; rather, they merely supplement them. They are, in their way, merely another attestation of the condition of the girl, that she is truly a slave and must be ready, at any time, and in any place, to serve her master's pleasure. The same girl who, fed by hand, is lengthily ravished over a period of Ahn, or even a day or two, may, at any other time, be merely told to stretch herself over a table. She will do so, immediately, unquestioningly. She is a slave. "
page 202, Guardsman of Gor
"She knows that she must be ready to serve, even on an instant's notice. This tends to keep her, as the Goreans say, rather vulgarly perhaps, "ready in her collar.""
page 208, Guardsman of Gor
"She, a slave, she knows, is expected to be an obedient, lascivious animal in her master's furs or, if permitted, on her master's couch. Indeed, she will be punished severely, if she is not. She is thus free, irreservedly, joyfully, gloriously, to revel in her sensuality. Furthermore, she knows that her most intimate performances and qualities are likely to be discussed openly and with candor by her master with others, perhaps even in her presence. Accordingly, rather than becoming ashamed of her sexual nature, she becomes quite proud of it, and often becomes competitive with her imbonded sisters, vying with them to become the most desirable slave in the house, or in the circle of her friends."
page 209, Guardsman of Gor
"Sexuality is important here, then?" I said. "Yes, Mistress," she said. "Here sexuality is deeply and fundamentally important, and here women are not men, and men are not women. The sexes are quite different, and here each is true to itself."
page 54, Kajira of Gor
like a virgin..touched for the very first time
"Virginity, as I understand it, in English," I said, "is sometimes spoken of as though it might be something which could be lost. In Gorean, on the other hand, it is usually conceived of as something which is to be outgrown, or superseded." "Interesting," she said. "What, in English," I asked, "is a woman who is not a virgin?" She thought for a moment. "A nonvirgin, I suppose," she said. "this type of distinction is drawn in various ways in Gorean," I said. "The closest to the English is the distinction between 'glana' and 'metaglana'. 'Glana' denotes the state of virginity and 'metaglana' denotes the state succeeding virginity. Do you see the difference?" "Yes," she said, "in Gorean virginity is regarded as a state to be succeeded." "Another way of drawing the distinction is in the terms of 'falarina' and 'profalarina.' 'Profalarina' designates the state preceding falarina, which is the state of a woman who has been penetrated at least once by a male."
..later...
"I was glana," she smiles. "Now I am falarina." I put my hand, forcibly, over her mouth. Then I removed it from her mouth. "Such expressions," I said, "are commonly to be spoken of, and by, free persons. They are not to be applied to slaves, any more than to tarsk sows." "Yes, Master," she said. "You were white silk," I said. "Now you are red silk."
pages 204-205, Savages of Gor
on the pride issue....
"Most girls, in fact, sooner or later, wear their collars with pleasure and pride."
page 207, Guardsman of Gor
being carried across the threshold of your new Master's home....
"Of course, my Master," she cried suddenly, delightedly. "I have been carried across the threshold. And now I have been put into whipping position! I am being introduced into a house, in which I am to be a slave. My mysterious master must, thus, be of Victoria, or of some other city in which are practiced the customs of the capture carry and the initiatory whipping!" The point of these customs, of course, is clear. The girl knows that she is carried into the house as a helpless slave, and then, in the intiatory whipping, learns that it is a house in which she is under discipline."
page 200-201, Guardsman of Gor
*note* kyna found this quote *most* interesting when thinking about the tradition of the groom carrying the bride over the threshold after a marriage...hmmm, kinda sheds new light on that, eh? :)
about...*shudder*...whippings.... how many ways can your Master whip you???
"Then I gave her ten strokes. This seemed to me a suitable number for such a purpose. She shook, gasping, in the bracelets. I timed the blows mercifully, and uniformly. I did not use a random timing, nor did I use a customized timing, in which the blows are indexed to the particular psychological and emotional condition of the individual slave. There are many ways to beat a girl. Against several of them there is no way that a woman can maintain resistance. I did not strike her with my full strength."
and later
"I tapped her on the back of the left shoulder with the whip. One more blow was to be struck. "Yes, Master," she said, "that blow which is to remind me that I am a slave." ....This last blow is often, though not invariably, added to a slave's whipping. It is sometimes referred to as the "gratis" blow, or the mnemonic blow. Often it functions as little more than a stroke for, say, good measure."
page 204-205, Guardsman of Gor
about those chains you wear....
"It is difficult to describe the subtle and exquisite emotions, so profound, and helpless and feminine, which may be felt by the chained woman. "You are chained, and a slave," the chains say to her. "He has chained you, and he is your master. He may now do with you as he pleases. You are now in your place. Choice is gone. Now you can be only, and wholly, a woman. Prepare now to serve you Master, beautiful chained slave.""
page 243, Guardsman of Gor
the expense of blackwine..and how to drink it as a slave...
"I believe Master prefers his black wine 'second slave', " she said. "Yes," I said. I watched her pouring the beverage. She did so carefully, deferentially, being careful not to spill a drop. I noticed how her breasts depended from her body. How marvelous it is to be served by a beautiful woman. "There are two cups," she whispered. "One is for you," I said. "Black wine is expensive,” she said. "Pour one for yourself," I said "Even though I am a slave?" she asked. "Yes," I said."
later
"May I mollify my beverage?" "Yes," I said. I watched her as she mixed in a plentiful helping of powdered bosk milk, and two of the assorted sugars. She then left the small, rounded metal cup on the tray. "Why do you not drink?" I asked her. "A girl does not drink before her master," she said. "I see that you are not totally stupid," I said. "Thank you, Master," she said. I then sipped the black wine. She, too, then, after it was clear that I had drunk, lifted her own cup to her lips. "Yes," I said, "you may drink, Slave." She then, head down, holding the small cup by its two tiny handles, sipped the beverage."
page 296, Guardsman of Gor

the roving, inquisitive slave girl writers...nairi and kyna ..wish you all well! :)


"Recipes"
~*~siduri{BR}'s Surprise Fruit Salad~*~
2 large oranges
2 pears
4 kiwi
2 bananas
2 apples (Granny Smith)
16 oz can pineapple chunks
1 cup seedless grapes
1/2 cup chopped pecans or almonds
Peel and cut the fruit into bite size pieces, place in a bowl and combine with "Cooked Orange Salad Dressing" Keep refrigerated until serving time.

~*~Cooked Orange Salad Dressing~*~

2 eggs, beaten
Grated peel and juice of two oranges
Grated peel and juice of 1 lemon
3/4 cup sugar
1 teaspoon flour
Few grains salt
2 tablespoons butter
1 cup heavy cream, whipped
1. Mix Eggs, orange and lemon peels and juices in top of a double boiler, Gradually add a mixture of sugar, flour, and salt, blending well. Add butter.
2. Cook over boiling water, stirring constantly, until thick, about 10 minutes. Cool.
Blend cooled mixture with whipped cream.
When this girl goes shopping for this fruit salad, she usually adds any fruit that looks good. If you don't have some of the fruits in your area, don't worry about it. Just add something else. (Tangerines, star-fruit, usually different types of apples and pears. The surprise is that each time she selects a something different to add to the salad that she has not used before. The family has to guess what new item is added. Perhaps some shredded coconut, maraschino cherries, strawberries, walnuts. If you are lucky enough to live near a supply of fresh larma fruit, ta-grapes, red-fruit, or tospit, throw them in too :) it can't help but add to the flavor. (Go easy on the tospit, it is bitter).

kyna, nairi and ei`lis wish you well! may all your dreams have happy endings.


"Quotes of the Week!"

"Most alone," I said, "are those whom love has once touched, and left."
page 369, Captive of Gor

poetry by the lovely sidura{BR}, slave girl of Brune
~*~
something hiden deep inside
safe, secure, and peacefully at slumber
was awakened one early summer morn and now...waits...insatiably for more.
~*~
sunshine lights her life
wind whispers in her ear
belly warms with just a touch
she turns around..... He's here.

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